Video Infoblog: "Israel Started This War" John Mearsheimer DESTROYS Piers Morgan on Iran-Israel War, Gaza, plus more
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I try not to watch Piers Morgan the infamous uh uk-based
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commentator who has made essentially a living promoting a kind of liberal
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justification for the US and UK and essentially the collective West's
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Imperial regime and this has not been any more clear or Stark and Preps just absolutely
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grotesquely so then in Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza he has made a
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name in lowkey British uh Iraqi rapper has been on this program more than a few
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times talking about how Piers Morgan has pretty deep connections to the Israeli
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side but nonetheless he has played this role of being kind of a middleman someone who POS poses as a good-hearted
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fellow that uh just continuously rebrands Israel the United States and
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the UK's talking points to justify this ongoing catastrophe in Gaz as well as
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its Regional implications well Piers Morgan has of course interviewed people like Norman finlin and uh hosted debates
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including people like Norman finlin the uh Infamous Professor former Professor
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who is an expert on the situation in Gaza and it hasn't gone so well for
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Pierce Morgan well he met his match in incredibly so from political scientists
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the renowned political scientist John Mir shimer and John mimer came on the
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Piers Morgan show and absolutely destroyed anything and everything that
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Piers Morgan tried to throw at him and I wanted to cover this because we are hearing a narrative of late both in
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regards to Israel what it's doing in Gaza as well as what the United States
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Israel and of course the collective West are doing in the Middle East to Iran for example a narrative that says that the
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United States in the west and Israel all have a duty even if it's not correct how
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they go about this duty but they have a duty to ensure that future war crimes
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that future catastrophes that future disasters in the region are prevented
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from these evil barbaric forces whether it be Hamas or Iran Etc and I want to
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play you how John mimer answered this because I thought it was an absolutely
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brilliant segment and I have more than than a few of these so let me pull up
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the first okay so let's see if I got this right one here here we go yes so
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here's what he had to say when Piers Morgan and this is from fukan goes aara who says Piers Morgan tried to justify
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what Israel is doing by saying how does any country defend itself without committing war crimes and so here is
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what Sean Mir Mar to say this is what we hear a lot in the Narrative of the
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collective west of the neocons right that unless you commit war crimes unless
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you meet so-called force with force and I think even that's a simp oversimplification when it comes to
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what's going on in Gaza you have to respond with equal if not greater force
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because that is for the greater good so here's how John Mir shimer answered that that's us off the hook how does any
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country defend itself from an existential threat like the Nazis then by your by your categorization without
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committing war crimes well if you look at how the
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Soviets who were basically responsible for defeating the Nazis uh in World War
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II uh they did not commit many war crimes in the process of defeating the
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Vermont it was basically a ground war where the Soviets uh uh the Red Army
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rolled up the Vermont there were no bombing of cities there were no dropping of nuclear
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weapons so in a sense what John mimer is saying and responding to because they've
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been talking about Israel okay they've been talking about what Israel is doing
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and of course Piers Morgan does that I'm not for all these killings of children but war crimes are going to happen bad
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things are going to happen in response to October 7th this has been Piers Morgan's justification
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for Israel from the very beginning and John M right away pulls out a deep historical example and says the Soviet
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Union did not drop bombs on civilians to
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defeat Nazis they did not do that they did not drop bombs on civilians what
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they did is they f a ground war directly against Nazi forces and defeated them at
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the great cost of the Soviets so of of the Red Army so let's continue now
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there's no question that there was a lot of rape and pillaging especially at the end uh as the Red Army moved into
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Germany but aside from that this was not uh a uh purposeful campaign to murder
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huge numbers of civilians so you can fight a war on the ground involving two
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armies that basically avoids uh the problem of bombing city
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and murdering huge numbers of civilians what if what if the Nazis are bombing
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cities as they were what do you mean I'm
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not the Battle of Britain the blitz I mean if they're going to send over bombers and just attack cities in the
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way that they did how do you defend yourself without committing war crimes by your by your
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assessment well the British defended themselves with fighter aircraft the RAF
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ended off the lvfa and won the Battle of Britain the the RAF the British did not
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commit war crimes uh to defeat the LT bafa in the Battle of Britain uh there's
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no question that the RAF uh at different points in the war purposely targeted
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German cities and purposely tried uh to murder large numbers of British
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civilians you know the story of bomber Harris for sure but that's not happened
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in the Battle of Britain and my only point is if you talk about what balber Harris did and the RAF did against
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German cities this was a war crime they were purposely bombing working class areas in German
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cities a big one was Dresden I mean firebombing tens of thousands in the Royal Air Force the RF as May shimer is
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calling it was absolutely a part was the biggest part to that the United States helped out but uh the uh British Air
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Force just absolutely level Dresden killed tens of
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thousands because that they believed would maximize that strategy would
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maximize the number of civilians well it wasn't as simple as that were they because they were deliberately targeting industrial cities in the main which were
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being used to build Munitions as well so there was a legitimate reason to Target these but that was the case in many
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cases that's not true yes it is no but no I mean what happened was that the
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British quickly found out and this is what happened to us when we bombed Japan
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we quickly found out that bombing economic and Military targets didn't work I could walk you through the story
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about the bombing of Japanese cities like Tokyo it just it didn't work and the reason we turned to bombing
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civilians to killing civilians when we bombed Japan and this was true with regard to bomber Harris is that bombing
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economic targets did so that's one part of this okay and I thought it was
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brilliant to bring up the Soviet example because it is so true that the Soviets
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gave up basically everything to fight that kind of war and uh you know it cost
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tens of millions 27 million Soviets died but it did lead to a reduction that
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wasn't the Soviets going in and just dropping bombs like Israel is doing on Gaza right now so that that that is just
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no justification and and that is the narrative we keep hearing over and over
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and over again um
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so so I want to play another this might overlap because the segments were kind of hard to organize but let me play you
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another segment here all right so here is more okay um no let's not do this
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okay let's go to the Iran piece so I think we got enough of Mir Shai
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just absolutely blowing the lid off of how it just there's no justifications
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what Piers Morgan was basically saying there is that you have to do what Nazis
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do in order to defeat Nazis that is essentially the argument so that's basically saying the Soviets the United
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States the Verity allies in World War II that's what they did not so simple
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although the US of course committed grave war crimes in Japan for
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example but now we're going to get in the issue of Iran because of
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course here's Morgan takes a very hard stance on Iran and has been using Iran
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as a way to justify of course once again what Israel is doing by putting a
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liberal face on it and here is what John mimer had to say about the situation
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there so here we gois who started this by bombing the
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Iranian Embassy in Damascus uh the Iranians did not start
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this conflict that recently took place between April 1st and April 19 they were
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there with with people from Hezbollah weren't they so they were they were military leaders using the consulate to
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plan attacks on Israel with leaders of Hezbollah I mean that was why they were
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targeted look in inter interntional law and according to International Norms
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states don't attack uh the embassies of other states this was considered to be a
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significant provocation unless they're being used by unless they're being used as military bases no Piers Morgan keeps on doing
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this this has been the narrative too from the collective west from the foreign policy neocon establishment what
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they say is that of course embassies are protected property that under
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international law there is to be no striking embassies during open conflicts
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any kind of conflict except Piers Morgan and others will say the apologists of
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War essentially World War these apologists they'll say except for if
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there's military planning no actually doesn't matter if there's military
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planning if there's anything going on there they're still protected every
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single us Embassy on this planet every single one is used for
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military purposes there is not a US Embassy on this planet that isn't used
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for military purposes and why is that because the United States doesn't do diplomacy US embassies in Colombia all
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across Latin America are used for military and intelligence purposes all
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across the Middle East all across West Asia try to go to a usnbc in Saudi Arabia and tell me that there isn't
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military activity going on there go to US Embassy in Israel and tell me that military activity isn't going on there
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it's Preposterous it it happens all the time there have been literal coups in regime change operations that have been
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planted out of US embassies this was the case especially during Dirty Wars in
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Latin America and the Caribbean throughout the 19 uh uh 50s 60s 7s 80s
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90s ask Chile what role the US Embassy played in the overthrow of p uh
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overthrow P Salvador yende which installed Pino the fascist dictator I think Chileans would say well
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the US Embassy played a very nefarious role by essentially acting as a conduit
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for arms training intelligence it happens every it happens operation
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Phoenix came out of so-called Indochina US embassies in Vietnam and Cambodia
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this is a long history but here's Piers Morgan saying oh you can just bomb them you can just
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bomb the US uh Israel they can just bomb embassies whenever they feel like
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there's military activity happening within them anyway here's Mir shimer to continue which it is beli certainly
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Israel argues I don't listen I don't know but it's certainly been argued by Israel that there were it was being used
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part of this consulate area was being used as a genuine military base in which case it becomes legitimate Target if
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indeed they are meeting with Hezbollah to plan attacks on Israel isn't
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it there's no evidence that it was being used as a military base and the fact is
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that if the Israelis are going to hit the Iranian Embassy the end result is the Iranians are going to retaliate and
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they did retaliate now I want to say a few words about that retaliation it's very important to understand that the
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Americans and the Iranians orchestrated the Iranian attack so that it would be a
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limited attack it would do very little damage to Israel and the reason this is
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the case is that neither the Iranians or the United States wanted this conflict
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and it was the Israelis who by attacking the Iranian Embassy in Damascus dragged
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the Americans and uh the Iranians into this conflict and what we tried to do
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working with the Iranians before the attack on uh April 14th and during the
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attack on April 14th was to do everything possible to keep it limited
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and avoid escalation so I mean John Mir shimer
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just speaking the truth I mean John Mir shimer especially since the conflict in Ukraine jumped off but it's but even
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more so since Israel launched its genocidal Onslaught I've been you follow him on Judge nap's show and wherever
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else he's doing interview I've tried to get him on here but um you know very busy guy uh but nonetheless if you
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follow his work and his interviews it's just become more and more solid on these issues and when it comes to Iran this is
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exactly right this this was a limited strike that Iran conducted on Israel
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that did penetrate the Dome it did cause damage to military installations inside of Israel no matter how many times they
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try to say it didn't but the United States and Israel were in deep communication through
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mediators and they essentially uh agreed to a limited
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attack that wouldn't escalate the situation in the region and that would
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give Iran what it wanted deterrence and also give the United States a way out of
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further uh becoming beleaguered in some kind of Quagmire that it already really
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is in so this was the reality that Iran
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throughout this iteration of us in Israeli
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aggression it has been the one to behave sanely and rationally with both reality
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and humanity and the region and Palestine all on its mind meanwhile you
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have Piers Morgan trying to say without any evidence that Iran was planning
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military operations out of this Embassy and let's be real of course there was
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Iranian revolutionary guard corpse of course the there were several military advisors some of Iran's top commanders
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inside of the AL alouds Force which is the essentially the regional wide uh
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Force which fights on behalf of uh the Palestinian people as well as uh
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whichever part of this region is Under Siege from aggression especially foreign
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aggression it played a key role of course in the fight against Isis and
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these jihadist groups Etc so you could say because they were there that
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military activity was being planned but there's no proof and even if there was
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proof it would still be a war crime and it would still justify and warrant an
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Iranian response so whoever demonizes Pi Morgan people like Piers Morgan when
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they demonize Iran for taking a rightful response to a war crime against it one
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that was limited and one that essentially in many respects uh uh uh uh
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helped take the planet off the brink of a potential nuclear and Regional
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disaster for those like Pi Morgan who stir up the pot and try to demonize Iran
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all they are doing is creating further conditions for something like this to
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happen again for Israel to essentially have cart blanch uh rubber stamp
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permission to commit war crimes of this nature which takes us to the brink of a
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World War in West Asia or at least a world war that it's that has a focal
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point in West Asia so that's the reality but John Mir shimer just absolutely uh uh was
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incredible in outlining these points to Piers Morgan
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and just I I mean this is just how it is for Piers Morgan right just completely
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outclass there is just no uh uh there's just
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no how should I say uh no question about
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where Pierce Morgan stands there's no question about John Meyer's uh uh Intelligence on these
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matters but I do have I did have one more clip on this that I wanted to show
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but it does overlap with one of the last ones so I want to just fast forward through
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it here we go here we
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go all right all right right so we're going to listen to one more clip from John Mir shimer on this question okay so
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I just had to fast forward a little
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bit okay it's not working for some reason all right let me
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refresh here we go if you categorize it all
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civilian so we're going to get more into this question so this can include uh
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what Israel did to Iran right and this can also include what Israel is doing to Gaza because they're having this
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conversation about the broader situation so here we go if you categorize it all civilian deaths in a in a war like that
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is murder you're effectively saying that every one of those deaths is a crime I would not argue that what the Allies did
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in response to what the nais and the Japanese were doing was a crime necessarily they were responding to an
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existential threat to of the world including mass murder of civilians as we saw the Holocaust so a response is not
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is not necessarily murder is it's effectively self-defense the question you have to ask yourself is whether or
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not you think because the Nazis were committing genocide because the Nazis
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were committing mass murder in Europe that that justifies bombing German
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cities and purposely killing huge numbers of civilians uh do you think
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that let you off the hook that's the argument you're making you're saying that because the Germans were so
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horrible we were allowed to be horrible ourselves but we weren't as horrible as
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the Germans and furthermore we were doing this in self-defense that's the argument you're making yeah and what I'm
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saying is I understand that there are strategic imperatives for killing
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civilians right this is why we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki with nuclear
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weapons we thought that it made good strategic sense and that it would save American lives especially those GIS who
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would have to invade the Japanese home Islands but I still think that that is a
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case of war crimes and uh and I think that to use your rhetoric uh lets us off
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the hook how does any country defend itself from an existential threat like the Nazis then by your by your
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categorization without committing war crimes well if you look at how the Soviets who all right so that we already
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went through that part but I think he did a masterful job of going over this
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point about how war crimes are war crimes and that there really is no
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justification for it and World War II history is so important because one
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thing that's often not noted about World War II and about the US's behavior is that when those nuclear warheads when
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those bombs were dropped on Hiroshima Nagasaki it was already well known that ja
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was gearing up to surrender that the firebombing that the United States had already partaken in had crushed them and
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that the Soviets right in the manua region for example were marching and the
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reason why the United States dropped those bombs because it did not want to
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give the Soviet Union credit for helping to uh end this war but also wanted to
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send a message to the Soviet Union that the next phase of its EMP Empire was
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coming into fruition which was the Cold War that this was a message to the Soviet Union that the Soviet Union
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shouldn't get too comfortable being on the same side of the United States because that was going to be reversed
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very soon that is the reason why the United States dropped those bombs it was not to defeat Japan Japan Was
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Defeated foreign policy magazine of all places look it up they have discussed
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this they have the receipts this was the real aim and all this is to
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say is that war crimes are war crimes and Israel always gets a pass and the
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United States always gets a pass from people like Pierce Morgan there's always a justification we have to defend
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democracy we have to beat the Nazis but that is never the case the United States
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does not defeat Nazis the United States helps strengthen their hand in place like Ukraine the United States doesn't
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defend or promote democracy it completely obliterates it in coup after
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coup and war after War all over the world is the United States truly
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bringing democracy anywhere right now is it bring a democracy to Gaza Gaza right now is not just an open air prison it is
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an open air prison that's being bombed to Oblivion where people are being
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massacred on a scale that we have not not seen right that we have not seen in
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the modern era if we look at it from the at least from the arena of proportions
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proportionality like the the proportion of people that are being killed in Gaza is just
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astronomical and it's just so infuriating it's so
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infuriating that people like Piers Morgan Get this kind of morality past
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that they because they are giving some kind of of liberal argument they're against war crimes in general they don't
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like what Israel is doing in some respects and then they go up in I think
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it's kind of insulting speak to someone like John Mir shimer a political scientist of many decades someone who's written dozens and dozens and dozens of
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books and articles a real researcher someone who's written about the Israel Lobby in the United States this is
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someone who knows his stuff and you try to debate and argue with him about
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whether it's justifiable to commit war crimes that's not even intellectually a
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valuable conversation because all you have to do is look at the UN Charter all you have to do is look at international
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law and you can say see that there is absolutely no justification for any war
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crimes you because for example if you look at let's say the right to Armed
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resistance for occupied people which is in the UN char
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that resistance is not a war crime that resistance is actually self-defense war crimes are offensive operations usually
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take that take part that are uh uh uh uh that are the result of brutal force from
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a more powerful aggressor that's generally how it goes Wars are never fought have we ever fought has there
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ever been a war fought in history where both sides are equally as aggressive
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where they're equally at um you know can be said to have started this war no
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usually Wars are about uh one side trying to assert its interests over
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another that's why you could say war in many respects is a reflection of class war because geopolitics is basically an
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essentially class war among nations it's about the bigger Nations the Richer Nations the wealthier Nations uh those
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Nations that are seeking uh uh unmitigated free access to uh PR
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to profit accumulation monopolization economic expansion and those who are not
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that in many respects that's how geopolitics is shaping out China Russia Iran these countries they're not seeking
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unlimited expansion because if they were they would have expanded far beyond where they are now in terms of their
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national interests the United States though the collective West they're everywhere they're in the Solomon
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Islands of all places they're everywhere they are seeking to expand their economic hegemony uh at the expense of
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those Nations that is the nature of War Israel it's not fighting in equal party
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in Gaza Hamas as many people say it doesn't have Hamas and the Palestinian resistance they don't have the same kind
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of Weaponry they don't even have a state however as has been the case in
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history many nations that have been stateless that have been essentially
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colonized dispossessed they have fought Wars too and they have committed acts
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that we would say well that may be morally repugnant but it's not a war crime because it's resistance to
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occupation to dispossession this is the qualitative difference between Empire
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and those who are besieged by Empire that is something thing that John mimer
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understands and his attempt to articulate this to Piers Morgan was Pro probably fell on Lost ears or on deaf
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ears but it didn't fall but many people listen to it and many people could see
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that Piers Morgan was just completely out of his league so all in
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all we have to comat and push against this narrative that Iran that uh Hamas
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the pal Palestinian resistants are these kind of boogey men in the region that
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are trying to destroy democracy so the United States and Israel can just do what they want in a way that's just more
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palatable that's what Piers Morgan is trying to say the United States and Israel should wage war on these forces
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it just shouldn't do it in the way that it is doing it this is why they're scapegoating Netanyahu this is why they
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want Israel's government to change it's not to stop the destruction of Gaza it's
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not to stop the horrific war crimes that they're committing it's just to V take
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people's attention away from it take people's eyes off of it all around the world and make it more acceptable to the
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global population I think that ship has sailed but the project the mission of
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the US Empire of the collective West is ongoing and Pier's Morgan is the
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